Responding to a post about a new game routine called the Imagination Test, commenter tteclod rightfully demurred,
Ross Jeffries has a version of this, but it still has some issues with transition. His approach is a little less awkward, but I’ve yet to read or watch video of any presentation that adequately corrected the underlying transition issues. Anchoring beforehand seems to be key, as well as physical contact and personal grounding and posture. Like so much of game, there’s a big picture and broad set of skills one must develop to avoid the creep label.
The master’s level work I’ve observed evokes remembrance of previous sexual sensations, e.g.: “Have you ever felt a drop of sweat roll down your chest?” and similar remarks. Another easy line is, “Mmm, salty,” with lip licking.
I’m of two minds about transitioning (for example, from a zippy opener to a sexual or conversational vibe). A good transition is a valuable game skill to have, because I have seen men all too often awkwardly broach topics that landed with a thud into social groups (although this happens less often one-on-one). A smooth segue would’ve helped them.
Contrarily, I have also seen “naturals” — men who have a preternatural grasp of social dynamics and how to exploit them — jump from one topic to another without any notable transition to speak of. They simply state with conviction what it is that’s on their minds, and people, especially girls, tend to jump aboard to follow their conversational threads.
As tteclod implied, a lot of what a pickup artist might call “transitioning” is really nonverbal cues that prime a girl to accept the seducer’s verbal tempo. If you have been touching her arm and leg, and slowing your vocal cadence, it won’t feel awkward to transition from asexual neutral chatter to sexualized innuendo.
Ross Jeffries is an advocate of neurolinguistic programming (NLP), which is the science (some would say pseudoscience) of embedding commands and evoking feelings in the listener that are transferred to the speaker, through the use of deceptive language tricks and anchoring. NLP, by its “out there” nature, is particularly susceptible to transitioning miscues, as the types of baiting questions that NLP involves would sound undeniably weird on the ears of a woman you just met.
But for the average man who isn’t running NLP game, transitioning from one mode of discourse, or one topic, to another isn’t difficult. If there was ever a time to be direct, transitioning is it. The answer is to PLOW. Just move from one thought bubble to the next, and if you catch grief from the girl, agree with her like it’s no big deal.
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This song is listenable, but not danceable.”
GIRL: “That’s out of the blue/weird/random.”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Yeah well, that’s me.”
Think of transitioning as basically “re-opening” the girl over and over. You never stop opening a girl until she’s opened herself to you. Yes there’s a chance — a good one if you’re a socially inept nerd — that your chosen topic will be uninteresting to the girl. If that’s happening, stop, and change the subject. The key is to act like you aren’t put-off or butthurt by her lack of interest; that this is just the normal course of events taking shape. Remember, above all else, overconfidence is the heart of game. If you don’t feel awkward, she won’t.
The other technique, besides plowing, is to verbalize your transitions as if you were narrating events as they unfolded. This is the “ironically self-aware” school of seduction. For instance,
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Well it looks like we’ve reached the point where that story is played out.”
GIRL: [whatever]
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This is the part where you’re supposed to sit awkwardly while waiting for me to think of another interesting topic.”
Actively uncool “goofball game” can work very well, but it requires a degree of state control and self-assurance that is hard to find in the wild except amongst men who already have their fill of pussy.
A third technique is the one mentioned in the Imagination Test post; you ask a leading question that serves as the springboard into a new, and hopefully more intimate, conversation.
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “You seem like the kind of girl who’s open to new experiences.”
GIRL: “Oh really!”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Not that kind of experience. Get your mind out of the gutter. I mean, do you want to learn something about yourself? Check this out… [run routine]“
The point of transitioning is that, as the man, you will have to accept that leading a woman to your desired destination is part of your duty as the proactive sex. Most women won’t make it easy for you, because most women secretly yearn for a man who demands from them some measure of submission.
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EVE’S TEMPTATION: “You seem like the kind of girl who’s open to new experiences.”
GIRL: “Oh really!”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Not that kind of experience. Get your mind out of the gutter. I mean, do you want to learn something about yourself? Check this out… [cum in her face]“
lzolzozozo
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This song is ginasexable, but not buttsexable.”
GIRL: “That’s out of the blue/weird/random.”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Yeah well, that’s my lostas cockasz.”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Well it looks like we’ve reached the point where that story is played out.”
GIRL: [whatever]
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This is the part where you’re supposed to sit awkwardly while waiting for me to think of another interesting topic. Sit on my face that is. lzozozozlz”
Have you ever felt a drop of cum roll down your cheek? lzlzozozolz
GBFM: “Have you ever felt a drop of cum roll down your cheek? lzlzozozolz”
HER: “Yes”
GFBM: “NOT YOUR BUTT CHEEKZ! EWWW GROCEZ! U CRAY CRAY!”
instant classic.
Strong coffee, eh?
“narrating events as they unfolded”
Nice. Welcome to the world of voice acting.
I just happened to be watching The Five on Fox News….guess Greg Gutfeld reads heartiste! “Do you think China and Russia are quaking in their boots over the underweight beta males running this administration?”
Glad to see CH shivs permeating the culture!
As flaming faggots go, Gutfeld is pretty damned awesome.
And I would fuck the ever-loving daylights outta them MILFs on that show.
If Roger Ailes knows one thing, it’s how to get the make-up artists to give his Anchorettes that “Porn Star” look.
On that note, and this is a bit OT – I’m wondering if Dick Morris’ laughably wrong prediction on Fox News 11/5/12 was directly lifted from Vox Day’s WND column from 11/4/12.
🙂
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That 3rd technique is played out, my good man. Most urban/suburban american chicks are well aware of the cliched staples of ‘the game’. that came out almost 10 years ago and chicks have had plenty of time to catch on to the ‘palm reading routines’ and all that shit.
The 2nd technique does work with dorkier girls but that’s not for me.
The 1st technique is the one to go with. You are amusing yourself. And the emphasis in non-tangential thread-cutting is primarily self-amusement. The girl could be any random bar patron for that period of time where said conversation needs a transition to keep from dying.
Another technique, provided you’re detecting interest, is to let the thread die without effort. Then you just kiss her. You have to be confident to do this, but that works for me. And that’s what she wants if she’s still talking to you after a few minutes of DHVing banter.
> “Then you just kiss her… that’s what she wants if she’s still talking to you after a few minutes of DHVing banter…”
Is that what courtship amounts to in the 21st Century?
A few minutes of banter and then straight to the fornication?
God have mercy on our souls.
these cunts definitely arent getting fine dining and flowers if thats what you mean
or: ass to mouth is the new going steady
But good God, they’re gonna be somebodies’ mothers one day.
Or maybe not?
Maybe they’ll grow old and barren, all alone, in apartments filled with cats?
Either way – from the Big Picture point of view – it’s pretty frigging tragic.
Z. Shane: you say it’s tragic, but I’ve seen you write about fertility et al. You want the cycle to repeat itself all over again. What gives?
“ass to mouth is the new going steady”
Haha! Welcome to 2014.
> “You want the cycle to repeat itself all over again. What gives?”
I’m well aware that huge swaths of the greater white family tree are headed straight into extinction.
But even though I know that it’s going to happen, and even though I know that there is almost nothing that I can do about it, I still bemoan the horrifying apocalyptic tragedy of it all.
Zombie Shane
I’m well aware that huge swaths of the greater white family tree are headed straight into extinction.
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Why do you assume all white people are valuable?
Lots of white people are just plain SORRY. Face it, they just suck. Maybe the system of white supremacy has made it too easy for sorry white people to survive and thats the reason the white race is going downhill?
Just think how sorry a white person has to be in a system where everything is made easier for white people?
If you’ve been white all your life and you still suck, you should hang yourself from your swing set in your back yard.
In general, this shit sounds awfully formulaic and algorithmic and “canned”.
Doesn’t anyone ever improvise anymore?
Remember: For every algorithm, there WILL be a counter- [or anti-] algorithm.
And if you ever get to the point where you actually enjoy your life, then you might try kicking back and relaxing and having a fun time when you’re out with the bitches.
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This song is listenable, but not danceable.”
the fuck kind of game is this
that’s not the game part. come on do i have to spell everything out?
> “if you’re a socially inept nerd… leading a woman to your desired destination is part of your duty as the proactive sex. Most women won’t make it easy for you, because most women secretly yearn for a man who demands from them some measure of submission.”
> “do i have to spell everything out?”
Okay, I reread your original piece again, and I think I now understand who your target audience.
And why the material is so algorithmic in nature.
CONT.
CONT.
And I just learned something: “inept” is essentially an alternate spelling of “inapt” [go to merriam-webster.com].
Anyway, to the extent that all STEM majors are nerds at heart, I guess I was pretty lucky – I was never a socially inapt nerd – I was always a socially apt nerd.
I guess a had a fairly decent ability to feed off of a chick’s emotions.
And it seems like maybe you’re toying with the idea of creating an algorithm – maybe even a “feedback loop” which emotionally stunted nerds could utilize in order to simulate the ability to feed off of a chick’s emotions?
CONT.
CONT.
Where by “feed off of” her emotions, I mean the ability to sense [viscerally] when you’re getting “warm-n-fuzzy” emotions out of her, versus when you’re getting cold and DARK emotions out of her?
And then to use the power of your serpent’s forked tongue to always change the conversation in a better [or at least not a worse] direction, so as to eventually lead her to the promised land of hot and moist rather than to the purgatory of frigid and dry?
If so – if you’re trying to create a simulation of an emotional feedback loop which can be utilized by emotionally-stunted nerds and geeks – then that is one seriously audacious undertaking which you are pondering.
In sales, many of the greats use NLP. Some of the most popular techniques are: Matching and mirroring, Pace Pace Lead, and Anchoring.
When done right, the strongest is anchoring. Especially if you can anchor a specific smell. I did this once with the smell of drying raindrops on a park’s trail.
She’ll never quite forget it, even if she tries to.
smell is key.
its the only sense tied directly to the Amygdala (brains emotion center) all the others reside in the thalmus.
incidentally, sociopaths/psychopaths usually dont smell at vividly or care about what they eat OR eat crazy flavored shit. hhhmmmmm i wonder why that is lol.
Tony Robbins is the ultimate player and he is a great place to start learning anchoring and mirroring specifically.
> “incidentally, sociopaths/psychopaths usually dont smell at vividly or care about what they eat OR eat crazy flavored shit. hhhmmmmm i wonder why that is lol.”
Tilikum – PLEASE EXPOUND – any personal anecdotes, or any references or citations of the psychiatric literature.
I would be extremely interested in anything you’ve got here.
Thanks!
Smell is the sense that memory has the strongest link to. Which is why, when you’re40, if a girl has the same perfume on that your sister drenched herself in as a teenager, you’ll either 1) be creeped out and run; or 2) get hard and want to bang her on the stairs.
thwackie’s in category 2, obviously. Having banged most of his family, including his sisters Shaniqua, Rhodesia (wait for it), and Valtrex, like a good little inbred ape, he likes to keep it all the subhuman family…except when he strikes gold and gets a hipster slut (aka human being).
Smart rape!
Rhodesia Salisbury. Truly a classic ebony name.
“Contrarily, I have also seen “naturals” — men who have a preternatural grasp of social dynamics and how to exploit them — jump from one topic to another without any notable transition to speak of. They simply state with conviction what it is that’s on their minds, and people, especially girls, tend to jump aboard to follow their conversational threads.”
this is pretty much my default when out. like my main girl says (when im getting numbers when out with her btw), keeping my interest IS what a girl lives to do in that moment.
im intense with eye contact and beta interest, then i get bored, glaze over and turn back in my chair to my main chick. get bored w her and turn back to the bartender or the girl i was flirting with. engage intensely, then just launch crazy shit, get bored, glaze over blah blah blah
they go ape shit and every tryhard Scottsdale tough guy gets so pissed they cant see straight. ive seen the losers throw up their hands. the girls love that shit too and will give me even more attention just to feed the vibe.
no fugugs either boys. i never roll or fuck w less than an 8 with a sweet disposition.
PA likes to transition directly to his knees when Piggy walks in the room.
Squealer rape!
Hunter Stockton Thompson: One might say that he died trying to explain IT.
Anybody ever heard of this guy:
One thing I now ask girls who are doing an activity:
“What was your inspiration for taking up xxxx?”
They always light up…they always have to think….then they ask me mine…It’s a great way to build up rapport on a common topic.
IF the girl is a bit vapid then you may need to coax it out of her: “You don’t have an inspiration? Are you a zombie?”
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HST was never able to manage I contact. He was, mabe, a Neanderthal freek. Sutof like mi and mi crzy Gf.
Wordpres moduration a fat hur..
So really quick update on that girl who I’ve been on off fucking for a really long time (she’s young high smv). After she “had an excuse” for not hanging the past two times I told her to I didn’t contact for a week. She then finally initiated contact saying something like “did you ever get that blah blah? I’m feeling some drinking games” or whatever. I give her. A short playful neg and she comes back with a shit test that almost felt back handedish. Then I agree and amplify and she playfully responds and I tell her to come over in a day.
My point is this. I’m sure she has other guys on her radar but she’s been fucked by me so many times that I can’t tell what she’s doing. She is being rather aloof for a girl. But in the past she has asked for more relationshipness. Basically I can’t tell if I should finally (after 9 months fb) get upper hand and next her or if I should continue playing her. I would like to be in a relationship with her but it would be wayyy too unstable seeing as how she’s always partying and Approached by guys and in the worst environment.
Lately it has felt like she’s trying to break my frame. Not treat me like an alpha but test me constantly and generally try to break it down or expose weakness. It feels like a sign for her to justify fucking another guy or starting to move one and stray.
Thoughts…? Help?
If she is fucking/were to fuck other guys, she’d be in the clear ethically. You two are not in a relationship.
The strategy of ‘look you’re either with me or your not with me’ only works for women on men. There are all kinds of sociocultural reasons for this. Which leaves you with only one option: to make her want an exclusive relationship with you. And the paradox of that is – in order for her to want that, you have to be unattached to that either happening or not.
That is the only way an exclusive relationship with this chick will ever work out without cheating etc (and even at that, no guarantees).
You need to be seeing other women and creating abundance in your dating/sex life. Nonchalantly let her know about it but beware – do not be try-hard in that regard. It has to be a natural relating of the matter-of-fact goings on of your life per usual.
That’s your best route. And the good news is – if she never comes around to wanting a relationship with you, you’ve created abundance and moved forward with your life. So do that now.
Rant: I was thinking about this and one great thing about being good with women is that they can get you entree into lots of nice places. If you got bored of clubs, private parties* is where it’s at and the only way I got into those is by knowing a girl that was going to one.
*not some dude having an apartment party, but the rented villa kind.
@will your post is just full of pua jargon.
Game is a tool for seducing and keeping women. But as I’ve discovered, there is always the danger of “over-gaming” and being seen as too flighty for a girl to ever want to get serious with.
There’s the danger of being too much of an orbiter.
But the problem with girls like the one you’re describing isn’t so much your lack of game, it’s your co-dependency.
You’re so sucked into her frame and dependent on her for your validation that you can’t function. I know. I’m getting out of this funk right now.
You have to stop focusing on every single fucking detail of your game and instead start from within. Are you confident you are the prize? Are you ok with never seeing this girl again? Are you ok if she fucks you over?
Define some boundaries in your mind of what you do and don’t want and whether this flakey nutcase fit in them.
I’ve written at length about my possible BPD ex gf and the lengths she went to to suck me in, then discard me. It was hard. I had to reboot.
Now I have clarity. You’re banging the girl, she’s coming back and you’re still walking on egg shells. Don’t you think you deserve to get banged? Do you think you’re “lucky”?
Get out of that mindset..THAT not some game tactic …is what’s fucking you up here.
Dude you nailed it. It’s like I can game her (and maybe I’m over gaming probably) but I still have this emotional bitch side attachment thing to her. Logistically she we’re in different stages of our lives so it wouldn’t be right for me or her to be relationship. But then that how do you know when that high smv hot girl comes around and is in fact in the right stage to game for LTR. It just feels that “timing” is always off or something and I know that’s not how it should be idk
well the girlfriends gone again
the tired song keeps playin on the tired radio
it hurts im cryin I can admit it
ill try to enjoy the pain for what it is a part of life
you can’t be serious
yea lol I enjoyed it but as always it got old don’t mean it aint sad when they gone
told her was time other day I need to take break
and if ya ever say that ya need to eject em on spot ya would think I would of learned by now
I didn’t have the conviction to really boot her to accomplish my goals
she did it for me though now that’s love
he he he
and yea never really cried before but ye since Iraq its not too hard sick I know
can we pull that comment out of moderation fellows?
hours later the chick that wrecked my truck calling asking what happened with you and your girl and wanting to come over
sent longest string of failing jumbotron texts in history of world
this is how not to get her to come back lol
dam the chick came up her belly is huge lol guess she was preggers when she said she was apparently
she runs in tickles me and shit hugs kisses laughs at my jokes kind of takes the edge off when a chick you got a history with comes over with the sole purpose of making you feel better
Changing the subject is a critically important skill.
Note the way Thwack fanatically negrification everything.
He’s obviously a fanatic.
Check out Eastwood as the stranger in High Plains Drifter.
Fictional but bad ass examples of seamless transitions and all around alpha behavior.
Rape!
Good movie
i always take the random/weird/whatevs comments as an IOI. it means you’re standing out from the crowd, and at first that’s good to keep her attention. so i just ignore the random/weird comments and plow ahead. with good state and frame control, if she’s even a little bit interested she’ll play along.
it also works as a good qualifier. if she doesn’t follow along and hammers on the random/weirdness, then she’s no fun and not worth it, or just not interested. take your skittles back and move on
OT: Its happened. I’ve finally gone full misogynist.
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